Comments for Missional Church of God http://missionalcog.wordpress.com Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:24:46 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on Raymond Culpepper is Blogging by Harry Nunn http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2009/01/17/raymond-culpepper-is-blogging/#comment-3368 Harry Nunn Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:24:46 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=466#comment-3368 I really wish he (Culpepper) could be taken seriously! His first statement after being elected to General Overseer was, "I want to travel to all the regions and listent to the concerns....." I shared concerns with him that were devistating our district and he did nothing but but run the political "tight rope". We had such high hopes, but now we are gone! I really wish he (Culpepper) could be taken seriously!

His first statement after being elected to General Overseer was, “I want to travel to all the regions and listent to the concerns…..”

I shared concerns with him that were devistating our district and he did nothing but but run the political “tight rope”.

We had such high hopes, but now we are gone!

]]> Comment on About by Harry Nunn http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/about/#comment-3367 Harry Nunn Tue, 10 Nov 2009 15:12:55 +0000 #comment-3367 Hi, I am wondering if anyone has information as to the process of a church leaving COG and keeping their property. We are a church Canada that is incorporated and our property is deeded to us. We were affiliated with COG for around 20 yrs but had nothing but conflict with the regional overseer (whom never gets replaced for some reason), In fact, out of approximately 12 pastors who have been on staff here, only 1 has remained with COG. I have been here for nearly 6 yrs now and basically saved a church that was going to be lost. Big split, great debt, and poor history. The Overseer knew the church was financially devistated and he told me he would have NEVER been able to pastor here, and expected me to stay maybe 1 yr or a year and a half. i made big cuts, liquidated assets and am making less after 6 yrs, than when I came here. Knowing the situation, the overseer encouraged me that it would take several years to turn things around and he was understanding of the fact that we could not be current with our tithe of tithe. However, one day in march of 2008 he made a special trip to my office to inform me that I was being removed as District Overseer and Raymond Culpepper was threatening to kick us out if our tithe of tithe was not up to date by fall of 2008. (He didn't even know we had sent funds for the previous 3 months) (Culpepper was the laison to Canada). I contacted Culpepper via email and he confirmed the threat by simply offering a 1 line response "problems in the body of Christ are never pleasant". The short version is that our church voted nearly 100% to withdraw rather than be kicked out. Once that was done COG decided they want our property! They know they will NEVER have a congregation here with the history and the bad press they will get if they succeed in taking our property. They just want the MONEY$$$$$$ In the court documents they issues this statement.... "The option for a church to withdraw in part or in whole from COG does not exist". Sounds like a "cult" to me. "We can kick you out, but you can't leave"! I would like to know if anyone can offer some information as to churches that have successfully left and kept their property. If you wish to respond privately, you may email ghnunn@nb.sympatico.ca Thanks in advance for your replies. Hi, I am wondering if anyone has information as to the process of a church leaving COG and keeping their property.

We are a church Canada that is incorporated and our property is deeded to us. We were affiliated with COG for around 20 yrs but had nothing but conflict with the regional overseer (whom never gets replaced for some reason), In fact, out of approximately 12 pastors who have been on staff here, only 1 has remained with COG. I have been here for nearly 6 yrs now and basically saved a church that was going to be lost. Big split, great debt, and poor history. The Overseer knew the church was financially devistated and he told me he would have NEVER been able to pastor here, and expected me to stay maybe 1 yr or a year and a half.

i made big cuts, liquidated assets and am making less after 6 yrs, than when I came here. Knowing the situation, the overseer encouraged me that it would take several years to turn things around and he was understanding of the fact that we could not be current with our tithe of tithe. However, one day in march of 2008 he made a special trip to my office to inform me that I was being removed as District Overseer and Raymond Culpepper was threatening to kick us out if our tithe of tithe was not up to date by fall of 2008. (He didn’t even know we had sent funds for the previous 3 months)

(Culpepper was the laison to Canada). I contacted Culpepper via email and he confirmed the threat by simply offering a 1 line response “problems in the body of Christ are never pleasant”.

The short version is that our church voted nearly 100% to withdraw rather than be kicked out. Once that was done COG decided they want our property! They know they will NEVER have a congregation here with the history and the bad press they will get if they succeed in taking our property. They just want the MONEY$$$$$$

In the court documents they issues this statement….
“The option for a church to withdraw in part or in whole from COG does not exist”. Sounds like a “cult” to me. “We can kick you out, but you can’t leave”!

I would like to know if anyone can offer some information as to churches that have successfully left and kept their property.

If you wish to respond privately, you may email ghnunn@nb.sympatico.ca
Thanks in advance for your replies.

]]> Comment on Tithe Statistics of the Top 100 Tithing Churches by Val Girilovitch http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/tithe-statistics-of-the-top-100-tithing-churches/#comment-3365 Val Girilovitch Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:15:06 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/tithe-statistics-of-the-top-100-tithing-churches/#comment-3365 Hi, we are gathering information for a doc film on religion and its effects on the economy, we would like your help and support. please contact us and give us a contact telefone number. Hi, we are gathering information for a doc film on religion and its effects on the economy, we would like your help and support. please contact us and give us a contact telefone number.

]]> Comment on VIDEO: An Outgoing Tide or an Incoming Tsunami? by charlotte sharpe http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/video-an-outgoing-tide-or-an-incoming-tsunami/#comment-3364 charlotte sharpe Wed, 21 Oct 2009 19:00:31 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=484#comment-3364 who was it that said ,"seek ye out the old ways and walk therein. cain wanted a new way and ended up killing his brother because abel staunchley defended the only true way to God.the sacrifice of a pure perfect lamb. cain thought he knew a better way to God but God doesn't change. God ordained a sacrifice that was pleasing to Him. a perfect spotless lamb shedding its blood to cover mans' sins untill the sinless One would come. new way? no way! give me the old way,the only way,the LAMB and the CROSS who was it that said ,”seek ye out the old ways and walk therein. cain wanted a new way and ended up killing his brother because abel staunchley defended the only true way to God.the sacrifice of a pure perfect lamb. cain thought he knew a better way to God but God doesn’t change. God ordained a sacrifice that was pleasing to Him. a perfect spotless lamb shedding its blood to cover mans’ sins untill the sinless One would come. new way? no way! give me the old way,the only way,the LAMB and the CROSS

]]> Comment on VIDEO: An Outgoing Tide or an Incoming Tsunami? by charlotte sharpe http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2009/02/07/video-an-outgoing-tide-or-an-incoming-tsunami/#comment-3363 charlotte sharpe Wed, 21 Oct 2009 18:37:37 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=484#comment-3363 you know i hear a lot about churches and what they're doing or not doing, and what they're not doing is building on the rock Jesus Christ and Him crucified. i don't care if you feed every person in the world and clothe them , if you have your faith placed in these good deeds and others instead of in Christ and what He did for you at the cross then Christ will profit you NOTHING. Gods word tells us there will be a great falling away before His return so it must be extremely close! there is only one way to GOD; Jesus His Son!!!!!! you know i hear a lot about churches and what they’re doing or not doing, and what they’re not doing is building on the rock Jesus Christ and Him crucified. i don’t care if you feed every person in the world and clothe them , if you have your faith placed in these good deeds and others instead of in Christ and what He did for you at the cross then Christ will profit you NOTHING. Gods word tells us there will be a great falling away before His return so it must be extremely close! there is only one way to GOD; Jesus His Son!!!!!!

]]> Comment on Fred Garmon on Implementors and Formulators: The Problem of Establishing a Shared Vision by Ricardo Martinez http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/fred-garmon-on-implementors-and-formulators-the-problem-of-establishing-a-shared-vision/#comment-3362 Ricardo Martinez Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:27:41 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=211#comment-3362 Hermano Fred. Le saluda el pastor Ricardo de Managua, Nicaragua, que Dios le bendiga mucho y le siga repaldando en tan importante ministerios en favor de los pobres. Bendiciones. Hermano Fred.
Le saluda el pastor Ricardo de Managua, Nicaragua, que Dios le bendiga mucho y le siga repaldando en tan importante ministerios en favor de los pobres.

Bendiciones.

]]> Comment on Thoughts about the American Church after a Few Weeks in Europe by revvolker http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/thoughts-about-the-american-church-after-a-few-weeks-in-europe/#comment-3361 revvolker Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:31:50 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=577#comment-3361 I now live for six years in Germany and totally support the former observations. Church here is nothing but a shell, God has been put in the storeroom, only to be taken out if of any use for mostly worldly purposes. Church buildings serve to host rock concerts to fill the void in their bank accounts due to the great number of people who relinquish their church membership. So I have to agree further to look at the history of places in this world where God's work once was great but now has become meaningless as warning. Sadly, I am under the impression people never learn from history, even if it happens right in front of them. I now live for six years in Germany and totally support the former observations. Church here is nothing but a shell, God has been put in the storeroom, only to be taken out if of any use for mostly worldly purposes.
Church buildings serve to host rock concerts to fill the void in their bank accounts due to the great number of people who relinquish their church membership.
So I have to agree further to look at the history of places in this world where God’s work once was great but now has become meaningless as warning. Sadly, I am under the impression people never learn from history, even if it happens right in front of them.

]]> Comment on Oprah’s Full Blown New Age Beliefs by charlotte sharpe http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2008/04/10/oprahs-full-blown-new-age-beliefs/#comment-3360 charlotte sharpe Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:05:59 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=127#comment-3360 my dear little children it doesn't matter which church you were brought up in, if you are truly a child of god you will believe in the one whom he has sent: jesus.and when you believe in him you will believe in his teachings the most important being that there is only one way to god and that is through his son jesus christ. my prayer is that you realize this as the holy spirit reveals this all important truth to you. please read the bible because it is truly life. my dear little children it doesn’t matter which church you were brought up in, if you are truly a child of god you will believe in the one whom he has sent: jesus.and when you believe in him you will believe in his teachings the most important being that there is only one way to god and that is through his son jesus christ. my prayer is that you realize this as the holy spirit reveals this all important truth to you. please read the bible because it is truly life.

]]> Comment on Thoughts about the American Church after a Few Weeks in Europe by charlotte sharpe http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/2009/07/10/thoughts-about-the-american-church-after-a-few-weeks-in-europe/#comment-3359 charlotte sharpe Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:11:13 +0000 http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/?p=577#comment-3359 from what i am hearing the church is already experiencing persecution and the indifference within the church is appalling. why aren't the pastors calling for a solemn assembly and a fast and a call for repentence from the horrible sins this nation is guilty of? why are we so afraid of offending someone when we say the s word? the church has failed and has left their first love. love for god and love for their fellowman by not warning them of the wrath to come. from what i am hearing the church is already experiencing persecution and the indifference within the church is appalling. why aren’t the pastors calling for a solemn assembly and a fast and a call for repentence from the horrible sins this nation is guilty of? why are we so afraid of offending someone when we say the s word? the church has failed and has left their first love. love for god and love for their fellowman by not warning them of the wrath to come.

]]> Comment on About by George Tallmage http://missionalcog.wordpress.com/about/#comment-3358 George Tallmage Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:55:12 +0000 #comment-3358 Great site, grew up in the COG but realize that we as a denomination need some changes. This seems like a great approach. Enjoy the blog and am going to add it to my links on my site. Thanks for your investment. Great site, grew up in the COG but realize that we as a denomination need some changes. This seems like a great approach. Enjoy the blog and am going to add it to my links on my site. Thanks for your investment.

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